– posted by thehim
This week, Postman put up a post criticizing Goldy for his over-the-top comments during last week’s podcast. While he doesn’t call me out directly, he does seriously miscategorize one part of our conversation:
P-I columnist Joel Connelly, a guest at this week’s gathering, said the BIAW column about the arson was outrageous. Which prompted Goldstein to say:
I’ll tell you what, if you want to be outrageous about this, let’s go back to Nazi Germany for a moment and … let’s talk about the fire bombing which supposedly was blamed on ELF, on the Earth Liberation Front, because there is a sign there that says E-L-F. I think it’s more likely — more likely than mainstream environmentalists applauding this arson. I think it’s more likely that the BIAW, following in the pattern of the Nazis, firebombed those houses in the way the Nazi’s firebombed the Reichstag, because they’re certainly using it the same way. That’s exactly how they’re using it.
Goldstein asked his guests whether they agreed with his theory that the BIAW’s criticism of mainstream environmentalists was “projection” because the builders had done the arson themselves.
There was a yes, a “yeah, probably,” and a “yeah, a little.” Connelly was something of a moderating voice, answering, “Nein.”
Goldy asked us whether their willingness to label environmentalists as Nazis was a form of projection. It had nothing to do with whether or not they’d committed the arson (for which I still have no idea and am not interested in guessing the outcome). Hopefully, Postman will update his post to reflect that.
After that, he then links to one of my quotes from the podcast (not aware that it was me):
Another panelist, and I couldn’t be sure who it was other than it wasn’t Connelly or Goldstein, pushed the Nazi analogy further in an effort to get Connelly to agree with the group.
Joel, let me put it this way here: If the government came to the BIAW and said, ‘Hey, you know what, we’re going to build concentration camps and we’re going to put all the Mexicans in concentration camps,’ you know the BIAW would be like, ‘Can we build the concentration camps?’
This was obviously meant to be funny, but I do think there’s a certain amount of truth to looking at the question in that light. If you’re going to have some basis for determining who the real “Nazis” are in a society, the best way is to see which people are more able to tolerate injustices against other subsets of the population. I have trouble believing that the BIAW would care in the slightest if they were profiting from something that was wholly unjust. Maybe they have examples from their past that would prove me wrong, but from what I’ve seen, I doubt it. It may or may not be projection (which was why I gave kind of a “sort of” answer to Goldy’s question), but the BIAW certainly has an odd persecution complex that quite transparently leads to inclinations to persecute others.