– posted by thehim
Carl, I saw this post yesterday and left the following comment:
Ok, so let’s try this one again. If I grow a marijuana plant in my house do you “live and let live” or do you demand that government involved to “punish injustice”?
He responded, and here’s my breakdown of that response (it’s still in moderation):
Marijuana does no one any good. It’s that simple.
That’s irrelevant. You wrote:
The only times conservatives want government involved is to punish injustice or secure the liberties of the people.
Growing a marijuana plant is not an “injustice”, nor does it threaten the liberty of another person. Again, why should government be involved?
Marijuana and other harmful substances should be forbidden just like gambling, prostitution, and slavery should be forbidden.
I don’t know how this isn’t blindingly obvious to you, but if you believe that marijuana, gambling, and prostitution should be forbidden, you do not, in any way, believe in “live and let live”. Not even close. In fact, what you believe in is the exact opposite of “live and let live”.
Let me put it to you another way.
Let’s suppose I sold a product that once you bought and consumed it, it affected your mental capacity negatively and made you an addict to the substance.
By allowing me to sell such a product, am I increasing people’s freedom and liberty or decreasing it?
If the people you selling it to are unaware of the effects of the substance, then yes, I believe that you are decreasing liberty. In fact, this is somewhat similar to the trouble the tobacco industry got itself into when they tried to cover up the harmful effects of its product.
However, this has nothing to do selling a product. All I’m talking about is growing a plant for my own uses. I don’t plan to sell it to anyone. I’m well aware what it does and how it affects me.
By the same argument, if people choose to become slaves, why should I forbid it? After all, it’s their freedom whether or not they want to become slaves or not, right?
That’s right. You shouldn’t. If a person desires to work for no money, why should we stop them?
Again, this is irrelevant to your main hypocrisy here. If you really believe that you’re a conservative and that you have a “live and let live” philosophy, you have to accept that others willingly make moral choices different from yours. That’s what “live and let live” means. I don’t understand what’s so hard to understand about that.
I understand that marijuana addles the brain to the point where understanding simple concepts such as these is difficult.
Actually, no it doesn’t. It makes me enjoy music, sex, and junk food more, and it makes your posts even more hilarious.
I understand it tends to increase the paranoia and decrease the ability to reason soundly as well as do basic arithmetic.
Nope, it doesn’t. In fact, I’ve been a very successful person in the high-tech industry for the past 12 years despite being a regular marijuana user.
Understanding these things, why would you consume it?
Again, if any of your misconceptions of marijuana were true, that still doesn’t change the fact that you’re being a massive hypocrite by claiming that “live and let live” is part of your political philosophy. You might be the last person on Earth who’s capable of claiming that.
Why would you allow anyone to consume it?
Because unlike you, I actually believe in a “live and let live” philosophy. That’s why.
Wouldn’t you chase it out of your society the same way you would chase out a rapist, murderer, or thief?
No, and the fact that you do try to “chase it out of your society” is proof positive that you don’t have a “live and let live” philosophy. Rape, murder, and theft are injustices. Growing a marijuana plant is not. Until you begin to comprehend that distinction, you’re a hypocrite for claiming what you claimed in this post.