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		<title>By: Thehim</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-65297</link>
		<dc:creator>Thehim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I heard what Rush said on the radio. I know what I heard. I saw little Harry speak like a spoiled little kid from the podium on my nickle. I didn’t believe what I saw and heard. I still don’t believe we are under the current effect of this dysfunctional congress that would allow this to happen. Tell me I am wrong. What’s next?&lt;/em&gt;

What&#039;s next?  I think what&#039;s next is that Fox News is going to tell you the sky is orange and you&#039;re going to nod in agreement as you drool on yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I heard what Rush said on the radio. I know what I heard. I saw little Harry speak like a spoiled little kid from the podium on my nickle. I didn’t believe what I saw and heard. I still don’t believe we are under the current effect of this dysfunctional congress that would allow this to happen. Tell me I am wrong. What’s next?</em></p>
<p>What&#8217;s next?  I think what&#8217;s next is that Fox News is going to tell you the sky is orange and you&#8217;re going to nod in agreement as you drool on yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokane Moderate</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-65194</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokane Moderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tell me I am wrong.&lt;/i&gt;

You are wrong.

I like how Lush&#039;s home station admits that they won&#039;t run the VoteVets&#039; ad because they&#039;re afraid the Dittoheads will encounter facts they don&#039;t want to hear:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/04/votevets-censored/

About all you need to know about Lush and his listeners, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tell me I am wrong.</i></p>
<p>You are wrong.</p>
<p>I like how Lush&#8217;s home station admits that they won&#8217;t run the VoteVets&#8217; ad because they&#8217;re afraid the Dittoheads will encounter facts they don&#8217;t want to hear:</p>
<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/04/votevets-censored/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/04/votevets-censored/</a></p>
<p>About all you need to know about Lush and his listeners, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-65116</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 06:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t think the solution is to get him taken off of Armed Forces Radio. Give the Armed Forces more choices, I say. If they want to listen to a drug addled idiot call their colleagues in arms phony, well OK, but they should have other choices.&quot;

I agree that Armed Forces Radio should provide our serving citizens with more choices. But Rush was added after Congressional pressure -- from such reality-challenged persons as Bob Dornan, for chrissakes -- because the Pentagon&#039;s own surveys indicated no demand for Limbaugh from the service&#039;s listeners. Rush is getting wingnut welfare FROM US, from our  taxes, so he can call any soldier who disagrees with him &quot;phony&quot;. Throwing his 4-F butt-boil off of Armed Forces Radio is not censorship, it&#039;s getting fired for violating the values of his employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t think the solution is to get him taken off of Armed Forces Radio. Give the Armed Forces more choices, I say. If they want to listen to a drug addled idiot call their colleagues in arms phony, well OK, but they should have other choices.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that Armed Forces Radio should provide our serving citizens with more choices. But Rush was added after Congressional pressure &#8212; from such reality-challenged persons as Bob Dornan, for chrissakes &#8212; because the Pentagon&#8217;s own surveys indicated no demand for Limbaugh from the service&#8217;s listeners. Rush is getting wingnut welfare FROM US, from our  taxes, so he can call any soldier who disagrees with him &#8220;phony&#8221;. Throwing his 4-F butt-boil off of Armed Forces Radio is not censorship, it&#8217;s getting fired for violating the values of his employer.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt. "IKE"</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-65039</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt. "IKE"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard what Rush said on the radio. I know what I heard. I saw little Harry speak like a spoiled little kid from the podium on my nickle. I didn&#039;t believe what I saw and heard. I still don&#039;t believe we are under the current effect of this dysfunctional congress that would allow this to happen. Tell me I am wrong. What&#039;s next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard what Rush said on the radio. I know what I heard. I saw little Harry speak like a spoiled little kid from the podium on my nickle. I didn&#8217;t believe what I saw and heard. I still don&#8217;t believe we are under the current effect of this dysfunctional congress that would allow this to happen. Tell me I am wrong. What&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paddy,

I don&#039;t think the solution is to get him taken off of Armed Forces Radio. Give the Armed Forces more choices, I say. If they want to listen to a drug addled idiot call their colleagues in arms phony, well OK, but they should have other choices.

Politically,

Media Matters provides the entire transcript of the call, so tell me where the context is missing:

    LIMBAUGH: Another Mike, this one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

    CALLER 2: Hi Rush, thanks for taking my call.

    LIMBAUGH: You bet.

    CALLER 2: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am a serving American military, in the Army. I&#039;ve been serving for 14 years, very proudly.

    LIMBAUGH: Thank you, sir.

    CALLER 2: And, you know, I&#039;m one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I&#039;m proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, if we pull -- what these people don&#039;t understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is about impossible because of all the stuff that&#039;s over there, it&#039;d take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse, and we&#039;d have to go right back over there within a year or so. And --

    LIMBAUGH: There&#039;s a lot more than that that they don&#039;t understand. They can&#039;t even -- if -- the next guy that calls here, I&#039;m gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What&#039;s in it for the United States to pull out? They can&#039;t -- I don&#039;t think they have an answer for that other than, &quot;Well, we just gotta bring the troops home.&quot;

    CALLER 2: Yeah, and, you know what --

    LIMBAUGH: &quot;Save the -- keep the troops safe&quot; or whatever. I -- it&#039;s not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.

    CALLER 2: No, it&#039;s not, and what&#039;s really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

    LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.

    CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they&#039;re willing to sacrifice for their country.

    LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined --

    CALLER 2: A lot of them -- the new kids, yeah.

    LIMBAUGH: Well, you know where you&#039;re going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you&#039;re going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.

    CALLER 2: Exactly, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the solution is to get him taken off of Armed Forces Radio. Give the Armed Forces more choices, I say. If they want to listen to a drug addled idiot call their colleagues in arms phony, well OK, but they should have other choices.</p>
<p>Politically,</p>
<p>Media Matters provides the entire transcript of the call, so tell me where the context is missing:</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: Another Mike, this one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: Hi Rush, thanks for taking my call.</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: You bet.</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am a serving American military, in the Army. I&#8217;ve been serving for 14 years, very proudly.</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: Thank you, sir.</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: And, you know, I&#8217;m one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I&#8217;m proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, if we pull &#8212; what these people don&#8217;t understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is about impossible because of all the stuff that&#8217;s over there, it&#8217;d take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse, and we&#8217;d have to go right back over there within a year or so. And &#8211;</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: There&#8217;s a lot more than that that they don&#8217;t understand. They can&#8217;t even &#8212; if &#8212; the next guy that calls here, I&#8217;m gonna ask him: Why should we pull &#8212; what is the imperative for pulling out? What&#8217;s in it for the United States to pull out? They can&#8217;t &#8212; I don&#8217;t think they have an answer for that other than, &#8220;Well, we just gotta bring the troops home.&#8221;</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: Yeah, and, you know what &#8211;</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: &#8220;Save the &#8212; keep the troops safe&#8221; or whatever. I &#8212; it&#8217;s not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: No, it&#8217;s not, and what&#8217;s really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they&#8217;re willing to sacrifice for their country.</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined &#8211;</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: A lot of them &#8212; the new kids, yeah.</p>
<p>    LIMBAUGH: Well, you know where you&#8217;re going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you&#8217;re going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.</p>
<p>    CALLER 2: Exactly, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Thehim</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-64923</link>
		<dc:creator>Thehim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You fuckers are idiots! I can’t stand Rush Limbaugh, but he was talking about one guy, some toad named “MacBeth,” who didn’t make it through Army basic training, much less go to Iraq and get wounded.&lt;/em&gt;

Um, no.  You can listen to the clip right here:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010

The context is unquestionable.  If he was talking about one guy, then how come he used the plural &quot;phony soldier&lt;strong&gt;s&lt;/strong&gt;, rather than the singular?  Are you completely fucking retarded?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You fuckers are idiots! I can’t stand Rush Limbaugh, but he was talking about one guy, some toad named “MacBeth,” who didn’t make it through Army basic training, much less go to Iraq and get wounded.</em></p>
<p>Um, no.  You can listen to the clip right here:</p>
<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010</a></p>
<p>The context is unquestionable.  If he was talking about one guy, then how come he used the plural &#8220;phony soldier<strong>s</strong>, rather than the singular?  Are you completely fucking retarded?</p>
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		<title>By: Spokane Moderate</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-64915</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokane Moderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You fuckers are idiots! I can’t stand Rush Limbaugh, but he was talking about one guy,&lt;/i&gt;

No, he wasn&#039;t.  Listen to the unedited clip.  Read the unedited transcript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You fuckers are idiots! I can’t stand Rush Limbaugh, but he was talking about one guy,</i></p>
<p>No, he wasn&#8217;t.  Listen to the unedited clip.  Read the unedited transcript.</p>
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		<title>By: Politically Incorrect</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-64858</link>
		<dc:creator>Politically Incorrect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fuckers are idiots!  I can&#039;t stand Rush Limbaugh, but he was talking about one guy, some toad named &quot;MacBeth,&quot; who didn&#039;t make it through Army basic training, much less go to Iraq and get wounded.

(I believe we should just blow-off this Iraqi adventure &#039;cause it ain&#039;t any of our business to be in the middle of some religious struggle.)

Today (Oct. 3) on Thom Hartmann&#039;s show, he made a comment that could have been easily taken out of context.  He actually said &quot;America for Americans&quot; during on part of an interview.  What are you fucking morons gonna do when some right-wing nut-job starts spewing that out-of-context quote all over the place?

You asswipes are no better than Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage, for that matter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fuckers are idiots!  I can&#8217;t stand Rush Limbaugh, but he was talking about one guy, some toad named &#8220;MacBeth,&#8221; who didn&#8217;t make it through Army basic training, much less go to Iraq and get wounded.</p>
<p>(I believe we should just blow-off this Iraqi adventure &#8217;cause it ain&#8217;t any of our business to be in the middle of some religious struggle.)</p>
<p>Today (Oct. 3) on Thom Hartmann&#8217;s show, he made a comment that could have been easily taken out of context.  He actually said &#8220;America for Americans&#8221; during on part of an interview.  What are you fucking morons gonna do when some right-wing nut-job starts spewing that out-of-context quote all over the place?</p>
<p>You asswipes are no better than Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage, for that matter!</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-64854</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, we get the unpatriotic Mr. Limbaugh thrown from Armed Services Radio (where he appears courtesy of then-Rep. Bob Dornan, just prior to the latter being unceremoniously fired by his own friends and neighbors). Then, we start demanding why patriotic, educated, and progressive Seattle should have to listen to the unpatriotic, ignorant, and drug-addled mind of some reactionary who hates our troops. (Bonus points for having Rep. Jim McDermott, a Naval veteran, lead the charge!) Let&#039;s roll!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, we get the unpatriotic Mr. Limbaugh thrown from Armed Services Radio (where he appears courtesy of then-Rep. Bob Dornan, just prior to the latter being unceremoniously fired by his own friends and neighbors). Then, we start demanding why patriotic, educated, and progressive Seattle should have to listen to the unpatriotic, ignorant, and drug-addled mind of some reactionary who hates our troops. (Bonus points for having Rep. Jim McDermott, a Naval veteran, lead the charge!) Let&#8217;s roll!</p>
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		<title>By: Thehim</title>
		<link>http://www.effinunsound.com/?p=512#comment-64839</link>
		<dc:creator>Thehim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl,
This has reached a level of absurdity I can&#039;t even fathom any more.  

I went back and listened to the Rush clip again.  The context is unquestionable.  Rush thinks either:

a) All the soldiers who have spoken up against this war are all lying about their service

or

b) All the soldiers who have spoken up against this war are serving, but want America to lose

There&#039;s no ambiguity there.  The saddest thing is that half of the wingnutosphere is yelling about how he was taken out of context while the other half is saying that we heard him correctly and he&#039;s right.  

The reality about all of this goofiness is that since most Americans are strongly against this war and think that Rush is a loony toon, it wouldn&#039;t have even made a difference if he actually had been taken out of context.  No one would believe him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,<br />
This has reached a level of absurdity I can&#8217;t even fathom any more.  </p>
<p>I went back and listened to the Rush clip again.  The context is unquestionable.  Rush thinks either:</p>
<p>a) All the soldiers who have spoken up against this war are all lying about their service</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>b) All the soldiers who have spoken up against this war are serving, but want America to lose</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no ambiguity there.  The saddest thing is that half of the wingnutosphere is yelling about how he was taken out of context while the other half is saying that we heard him correctly and he&#8217;s right.  </p>
<p>The reality about all of this goofiness is that since most Americans are strongly against this war and think that Rush is a loony toon, it wouldn&#8217;t have even made a difference if he actually had been taken out of context.  No one would believe him.</p>
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